OG新中单ANA爆料iG欠薪赖奖金,有实力却长期坐冷板凳给430打替补

2016年10月6日 发表评论 阅读评论

闪电站小猪看到的一封讨薪的信,Ana也写了一封英文信发在国外网站,iG的经理Zhili所作所为确实欠妥。按道理来说首富之子国民老公王思聪不会拖欠员工薪水,可能与Ana最终不愿打替补离队出走有关。

大家看看吧:

如果一定要我讨薪,我就讨一讨:写给IG俱乐部的一封信

我是GOGOSU专业电竞教学网站的CEO天,Ana是我亲自带出道的一名选手。起初,我并不相信讨薪这样的事件会发生在我周围,也更不相信壮如IG这样的俱乐部会拖欠区区几万块的队员奖金。


直到IG的COO和CEO不再回复我和Ana的微信

Ana是一名Dota2选手,可他毕竟也只是一个16岁的孩子。Zhili,我不知道几万块在你16岁的时候是一个什么样的数字。若放在我年方16时,这已经是一笔巨款了,可以请朋友们去吃顿大餐,可以拿去跟女孩儿们吹嘘一通,或者给澳大利亚的父母买些东西,告诉他们,打职业比赛是我选择的道路,并且我走得很好,让他们放心。

这个孩子是我从墨尔本带来的,我认为他是不可多得的天才,我甚至认为他有朝一日也是会打到9000分,我点燃了他的一腔热血,我要为他负责,我不能让他觉得自己头脑一热就来中国打职业,还拿不到应得的奖金啊!我熬夜帮他看IG几十页的合同,一条一条得帮他修改,最后发给IG的管理过目都说没问题。但是当我们前往俱乐部签订双方都认同的合同时,才发现IG方面又将很多条款改了回去,根本不是我之前和IG的管理确定的终版合同。我当时非常恼火,我真的认为这是最不起眼也是最卑劣的骗签手段,直到IG的COO Zhili跟我说,是IG的工作人员打印时出现了失误,没有打印最终版的合同。而现在时间很晚了,再打印盖章一次要耗费很久时间,并向我和Ana口头保证合同一切内容一定与我在网上所修改最终版的内容保持一致,包括奖金分成以及服役期限等等等等。我当时万万没想到IG这么大的俱乐部会为了几万块钱来欺骗16岁的孩子。虽然是口头保证,但是这是Zhili跟Ana和我面对面说的,是他给了我们承诺的。我跟Zhili的微信聊天记录可以证实我所言非虚。


我质疑打印出的合同条款后Zhili给出的承诺。


Zhili面对我质疑NEA奖金发少了的回复,或者说,不答复。

Zhili面对我质疑NEA奖金发少了的回复,或者说,不答复

大家的眼睛是雪亮的,在图1和图2,Zhili确实答应了我们打所有比赛跟队员平分奖金。后来是微信不回,电话不接,所有的的承诺都是空话。

Ana之前就一直很粉430,听说能做430的队友,他很长时间都睡不着觉,他也跟我说,430对他很好,经常鼓励他,因为430和其他队友的支持,他才亦然留在IG做430的替补也不愿意去IG.V打主力。可是事实并没有像他想的那样发展。Ana妈妈是上海人,Ana会用中文打字,听的懂也看得懂所有的Dota名词。可是Ana竟然跟我说,团队会议的时候管理几乎每次都把他排除在外,根本不通知他,因为他们“认为”Ana听不懂中文。


图为证据Ana被管理排外不通知他有团队会议。

我明白,NEA联赛的奖金没有办法通过法律途径解决,合同上白纸黑字,清清楚楚,这件事我当时就不该相信COO zhili的一面之词。我该要求重新打印和盖章的,我的锅,我背好,如果IG不愿意付Ana应得到的奖金,我会一分不少得自掏腰包给他。跑开Zhili人格问题以外,VK你是什么样的人?如果几万块的奖金都兑现不了,那么答应给430的法拉利呢?这个合约有没有签?如果兑现不了就是因为430违约咯?

谈谈Ana离开IG的事情吧,我跟你们讲道义,不是要你们拿冷冰冰的文字游戏来坑我啊!是谁告诉我,告诉Ana,如果Ana要继续留在IG的话,不能在IG也不能在IG.V,需要在第三个队打。现在十月份了,你告诉我第三个队在哪里啊?摆明要Ana在板凳上坐一个赛季,等你们凑齐一个不知道水平几何的队伍。Ana跟我说过只要IG要他打,他是不考虑别的队伍的,我们不是不帮IG打,是我们帮不了啊。

Ana已经转会到了OG,他一直跟我说,没关系的,钱以后还可以挣,他很开心在中国遇到了这么多的好朋友,这是他在墨尔本从未有过的体验。但是这些天我一直辗转难眠,我在心里觉得是我把他骗了,把他骗到了中国,骗到了IG,骗他打了那么多的比赛却还是拿不到应得的奖金。

我对IG的CEO, COO并不抱任何可以处理好此事的希望,我只希望该公司更高的管理层可以认真应对这件事。IG曾经的叱咤风云不言而喻,在430和大家一起捧起TI冠军奖杯的时候我也曾为了CN Dota泪流满面!如果真的如您所说,IG不会为了几万块钱浪费时间的话,那么,把奖金按照约定给了Ana又如何?他只是个怀抱梦想,勇往直前的孩子,希望你们可以基于最低的道德标准,给予他应得的奖励。

总而言之也谢谢你们给我的教训,我再也不敢相信一句不写在合同上的话,让我今天只能狼狈得用聊天记录来证明这些内幕,我只是不懂,像个男人一样处理问题有什么不好? IG总共在NEA,DPL,G-league三个联赛亏欠Ana约8w RMB,数目不大,可是这种行为真的是,让我长见识。

以下链接有按照时间顺序给出的所有我与zhili和VK的聊天记录:
我跟Zhili的聊天历史记录[http://imgur.com/a/9F4bG]
我跟VK的聊天历史记录 [http://imgur.com/a/wK2Oh]

ANA的公开信

Hi guys,

Everything you’re about to read is the truth, and even though it probably won’t help me I hope others learn from my mistake.I never wanted to post or bring this drama to the public but I have exhausted all possible channels of communication and I am at my wits end.

I guess most of you don’t know me since I’m not a top player, so I’ll give a brief intro to my background. I’m a 16 year old Australian born Chinese/Viet mix who left the final year of high school to try play dota2 professionally and my family isn’t exactly well off so my success in dota is very important. My friend & manager, Tian (CEO of gogosu.com, a Chinese dota2 coaching platform) helped me piece my thoughts and write this post.

Proof its me. (attach proof)
[http://imgur.com/a/E5WvS]

Tian has been my friend even before I went to China, we used to play Aus pubs together a lot and when he understood my situation he recommended me to try pro dota2 for a year. With the help of Tian I left for China on 17th of Jan and stayed with hes family until end of March, during this period Tian used his connections in China and had vouched for me to trial at different clubs, EHOME.K, VG.R and IG. I was very new to pro dota and seriously sucked so I was beyond ecstatic that IG were interested in offering me a position.

Tian helped me read and alter a thick contract between IG, ACE and myself. Initially the contract was heavily favored toward IG and left very little protection to myself. IG could let go of me as they wished, didn’t guarantee me prize money split, couldn’t guarantee me play time and was a two year long contract. The offer was for me to play as IGV’s main player, but that Ferrari430 may come back at some point and at that point I could either switch to the other IG roster or play as sub.

Because of this Tian made multiple adjustments to the proposed contract including but not limited to the following,

I would have equal prize money with all 5 players in non valve events whether I was a main player or sub
I would have equal prize money with 4 players (BBK, XXS, QD, Rong but excluding Ferrari430) in Valve events
The contract would only last 1 year instead of 2
That I would be guaranteed some play time in scrims and minor tournaments
That I would be provided a teacher for Chinese and Math
That all my travel costs to renew my Chinese visa would be paid for

After many iterations back and forth IG finally agreed to these changes, however when we went to sign, none of the agreed upon changes made it into the final contract. I immediately contacted Zhili, IG’s COO and he guaranteed that it was a clerical mistake and that everything IG promised will hold even though the contract had been changed. He said that it would be too late to reprint and to trust his word on it. My mother in Australia signed the contract for me as I am still underage.

Fast forward a few weeks, Ferrari430 was suddenly back and IGV renamed to IG and IG renamed to IGV, I was told I could play mid for IGV (Paparazzi’s stack) or sub for Ferrari430. It was a very tough decision, but I chose to stay with IG because IG promised me that even though I was a sub I would still get equal share of prize money and IG also promised that it would be the final year for Ferrari430 and that he was definitely retiring after TI regardless of result. Had I known what was about to happen to me I would have never chose to be benched for 4 months as a sub.

After returning to the team Ferrari430 played very well in the NEA online qualifiers and helped IG secure LAN final in Beijing and then abruptly left the team. I was subbed in last minute and played only in the LAN finals but luckily we were able to secure the victory over Newbee.

Fast forward a few months and a lot has happened or should I say not happened. Ferrari430 came back to train for TI qualifiers and again I was benched. During my entire stay at IG, no attempt at getting me a Chinese tutor or translator was ever made, I was excluded from most team meetings because according to the management I did not understand Chinese, I was never compensated for costs related to renewing my Chinese visa. Overall the management of the team was very poor and there was little communication between management and myself.

Fast forward to the beginning of post TI shuffle, management didn’t proactively let me know whether they had a spot on the team for me and whether Ferrari430 would stay or leave. In the end Tian and I had to wrestle the truth out of them, they did not want me on the main or IGV roster but said that they would make a third team for me. This sounded like a poor attempt at benching me again for a season since no players other than myself were confirmed for IG’s 3rd team. Guess what? Its October and IG does not have a third roster.

Their excuse was that I could not communicate with the team when in actual fact my mother is Shanghainese and that makes me half Chinese and I understand all the dota2 terminology, items, heroes, skills how to coordinate in fights, I was also willing to learn. 不能给我一个机会? The truth of the situation is that they were already in talks with bigger name players and they had time left on my contract and didn’t know what to do with me. When we asked them who was on this supposed 3rd team of IG or even what the name was no information could be provided to us.

There are a lot of rumors on the Chinese forums that I left IG because I could not speak Chinese or eat Chinese food. That is all false, I can understand enough Chinese for pro dota and I love Chinese food, but I also enjoy western food. Is that a crime?

I really wanted to continue playing with my boys in IG but management didn’t let me. This is when Tian started negotiating my release from IG because they didn’t have any real plans of having a third team, as far as I know I was going to be benched for another season. I would rather go back to school if I could not find a good team and was a sub doing nothing again.

I was finally paid my winnings from NEA late September and it was ¥51,200 RMB out of a grand total of ¥800,000 RMB and the rest of the players were paid over ¥100,000 RMB. I am also yet to be paid for my DPL (over $2000 USD) or G-League winnings (over $2000 USD).

When we contacted IG regarding the discrepancy between what I was paid and what was promised they made excuses and eventually cut contact with us. They simply don’t acknowledge that they promised me equal share of prize money even when presented with proof, VK (IG CEO) even went as far as belittling my manager for wanting more than I got and that it was a joke that we were even talking to him for so little money because he is such an important man. In the end VK (CEO), Zhili (COO) have all stopped replying messages from Tian and myself and I am short over $12,000 USD.

I am deeply sad that such a world renowned club would be ruined by such poor management. How many players have been ripped off by IG or other shady clubs? Will Ferrari430 ever receive his Ferrari promised to him by IG? Are promises worth nothing unless written in the form of a contract?

Here are the transcripts (In Chinese) between Tian and IG.Zhili (IG COO) The transcripts are basically Zhili promising us equal share of prize money and when confronted with his own chat history he ignores us.
[http://imgur.com/a/9F4bG]

Here are the transcripts (In Chinese) between Tian and IG.VK (IG CEO) The transcripts are VK belittling Tian and basically ignoring the evidence that the COO of IG promised us equal pay.
[http://imgur.com/a/wK2Oh]

I don’t see how I will ever get this 12k back and it is a lot of money for my family and I. I guess I am just really sad about this whole situation but I have learnt my lesson. Finally, I just want to make it clear that my beef is with IG’s management and I have NOTHING against the players in IG, I made many friends there and I am grateful for that and still chat with them day to day.

If on the off chance that Wang Sicong reads this post, please return to me what I am owed and stop letting bad management ruin IG.

Ana

Ana公开信中文译文:

ANA的公开信

你下面所读的所有都是真相,即使这可能并不能给我任何帮助,但我希望至少这会给其他的一些职业新人敲响金钟。我从来不希望把这种事公开,不过我尝试通过所有的渠道交流都没有获得任何回应。

我猜大部分人都不太认识我,因为我不是一个最顶级的选手,所以我简单的介绍一下我的背景。我今年16岁,是越南/华裔混血的澳洲人,我放弃了高三的学业进入了职业拳。我的家庭情况并不是很好,所以我在dota中的成功是至关重要的。我的经理人和朋友,tian(gogosu ceo)帮助我一起写了这一封信。

Tian是我在来中国之前就认识的朋友,我们在澳服一起打了很多,当他慢慢了解了我的境况,他推荐我试一试打一年的职业dota。在tian的帮助下,我在1月17日抵达了中国,和他的家人一起待到了三月底。在这段时间,tian利用他的关系让我在不同的俱乐部试训,ehome.k,vgr和ig。我当时是一个彻彻底底的新人,而且特别菜,所以我非常感谢IG能够给我一个打职业的机会。

Tian帮助我读和修改了与IG以及ACE签订的超长合同。一开始,这个合同对IG非常有利,给我了很少保护自己的空间。IG可以随时随地开除我,没有保证我的奖金分配,没有保证我上场的时间,而且还为其两年。在这份合同里我是主力队员,但是如果430回归的话我将会被调到ig的其他队伍会这打替补。

因此,tian帮我做了一些合同上的修改,包括以下这些。
我将和其他五名成员拥有一样的奖金,不管我是替补或者主力 (在非valve官方赛事)
我将与其他四名成员(除了430)拥有一样的奖金(在valve官方赛事)
我的合同有效期为一年
我将被保证在练习赛和小比赛中有一些上场时间
俱乐部将为我提供中文和数学教师
我所有的出行费用和中国签证费用由俱乐部负责

在反复的协商之后,IG同意了这一决定。但是当我们去签合同的时候,没有任何这些改变的条件被写在了最后的合同里。我们立刻联系了IG的经理 zhili。智力表示这是一个打印错误,并且所有IG之前保证的都有效,他说再打印一份合同太慢了,并希望我们能够相信他。我在澳洲的妈妈帮我签了这份合同,因为我还未成年。

过了几周,430突然回来了,IG和IGV互换了队名。俱乐部告诉我我可以给IGV打中单或者给430做替补,这是一个非常艰难的决定,不过我最终决定留在IG,因为IG保证即使我是替补我也能分得同样的奖金,IG同时也保证这将是430的最后一年,他将在TI之后退役,不管成绩如何。如果我可以预知之后发生的一切,我将永远不会做出打4个月替补这个决定。

快进几个月,很多事情发生了,但跟我都没什么关系。430回来为TI中国区训练,我又成了替补,我在IG的所有时间,俱乐部并没有尝试为我找一名中文老师或者翻译,我被大多数的队伍会议拒之门外,因为我不懂中文,俱乐部也从来没有为我的签证费用负责,我基本没有获得和俱乐部管理层交流的机会。

我们再次快进到TI之后的大地震,管理层没有告诉我,我接下来能不能打主力,430是去是留。直到最后我和tian才从他们嘴里撬出了真相,他们不想让我进入IG或者IGV的阵容,而是说要为我组件一个新的战队。这听起来就像又要让我打半年替补,然后猜猜发生了什么,已经是十月了,IG并没有一个新分队。

他们的理由是我不能跟队伍交流,但是事实是我妈妈是上海人,所以我是半个中国人,我知道所有dota的常用语,道具,英雄,技能的名称,也知道如何在团战中配合,我也非常希望学*,不能给我一个机会?事实是他们已经与一些给知名的选手商量好了(鳖鳖>.>),所以不知道如何处置我。当我们问IG这个新分队将有哪些队员,俱乐部没有给我们任何信息。

在中文论坛(SG)上有很多传闻,说我离开IG是因为我不会讲中文,吃不惯中餐。哪些都不尽属实,我懂得中文足够我在中国打职业,我也热爱中餐,不过我也热爱西餐,这不犯法吧。
9月ig终于给我发了我NEA比赛的奖金,IG俱乐部一共获得奖金80w人民币,我只拿到了5万,而且我还被拖欠着DPL和G联赛总共超过4000美元的奖金。
当我们为此事与IIG交流时,他们先是找借口,最后直接中断了和我的联系。VK觉得我们找他谈这么点钱是不是搞笑,因为他很忙,他觉得我和我的manager tian是在想要多拿点钱。

我很伤心这么一个世界知名的俱乐部的管理层如此的混乱,有多少的选手被ig或其他的俱乐部坑过?到底430最后能不能得到IG法拉利的承诺?是不是没写在合同里的承诺都一文不值?

下面就是一些tian和 zhili以及 vk交流的截图
http://imgur.com/a/9F4bG
http://imgur.com/a/wK2Oh

我不觉得我还能拿到那1w2美元,虽然这对我和我的家人是一大笔钱。我觉得伤心之余也学到了一些东西。最后我声明,我对IG的管理层很失望,但是这与IG的队员无关。我在那里叫到了许多朋友,我也为还能与他们聊天感到高兴。

如果有一点可能校长能看到这个帖子,真心希望ig能够把我因得的换给我,不要让混乱的管理层再迫害ig俱乐部了。

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  1. Kaka
    2016年10月7日00:01 | #1

    你走人了老子还要给你钱,尼玛当窝是智障?

  2. 匿名
    2016年10月7日00:25 | #2

    合同没拟好,就是合法的坑

  3. KaKa SB
    2016年10月7日03:25 | #3

    R u fucking SB智障 KaKa? Why can’t Ana leave if IG did such shit at the beginning. Don’t use ur ass instead of ur head.

  4. puppy
    2016年10月7日06:53 | #4

    口头承诺就是没用 黑纸白字签合同的

  5. ruru
    2016年10月7日07:25 | #5

    口头承诺骗签合同?呵呵,那大概不是老娘玩剩下的?

  6. 匿名
    2016年10月7日09:08 | #6

    评论已被删除!

  7. 绿卜绿 你说了卜算
    2016年10月7日15:59 | #7

    @匿名
    你是一只杂种猪 不也挺把自己当回事

  8. dej
    2016年10月7日16:21 | #8

    ig这种俱乐部,早点散才是真!

  9. 匿名
    2016年10月7日20:12 | #9

    iG解散吧,越来越不像一家正规的电竞俱乐部

  10. OB.YYF
    2016年10月7日21:11 | #10

    ig那几个管理缺失垃圾,人品更是垃圾,吹牛拍马功力深厚。

  11. OB.Zhou
    2016年10月7日21:45 | #11

    OB.YYF :
    ig那几个管理缺失垃圾,人品更是垃圾,吹牛拍马功力深厚。

    大胸弟,算了,都过去了。

  12. notail
    2016年10月8日00:23 | #12

    妈的现在看来这个ana智商真心低。老子要找个机会T了他

  13. OB.820
    2016年10月8日00:57 | #13

    @OB.Zhou
    还是我传销大师好